Our great leader Mr Cameron who seems very fond of speeches at the moment put on his black tie and turned up at the Jewish CST charity bash declaring "I will never rest while the Jewish Community is under threat". He also called himself "an advocate" for the racist apartheid state of Israel.
Good to hear your support for the Jewish community Dave, however why don't I hear you saying the same for the Black community or Muslim community or how about the white working class community? Don't we also get a mention in this brave new world of the Big Society?
Ok fair enough Cameron may have been playing to the gallery however, what LM finds slightly nauseating and rather ominous was that our PM could go to a Jewish bash where his speech was typically laced with implicit and not so subtle references to Muslims. One would be horrified if any politician went to a Muslim bash and slagged off Jews so why should Cameron be allowed to go to a Jewish bash and engage in yet another Islamophobic rant against Muslims with a speech that will be cheered to the rafters in any EDL pub of white racist chavs. How many in the audience were supporters of Geert Wilders.
Cameron said the biggest threat to the Jewish community comes from "Islamist extremism". What about the biggest threat to the Muslim community coming from Jewish extremism. "Antisemitism is abhorrent to me", good what about all form of racism including Islamophobia.
Cameron in the same sentence mentioned "terrorism", "Islamist realm" and "Sharia" in what frankly was a disgraceful racist attempt to conflate Islam with violence. Following Munich, Cameron is dangerously treading on sensitive ground when in order to appease his Jewish audience he uses Muslims as the scapegoat.
You can read the full speech here, is it any wonder that some Muslims feel radicalised as distinct from being radicalised when for example white racist Eton toffs pillory our faith. My advice to Muslims don't take the bait.
Cameron is right. You may not like it, but you need to put your house in order.
ReplyDeleteI've just the read the speech and the post above is correct. Put your house in order first, complain second.
ReplyDeleteActually this statement...
ReplyDelete"Let me say this has never been a problem for the Jewish community, who have been a model of how to integrate."
Is very, very much untrue. And its getting worse.
"a disgraceful racist attempt to conflate Islam with violence"
ReplyDeleteracist. a term which is now redunant through repeated, dishonest use by people like you and your co-religionist maniac friends. islam is violent, retarded and backward - and so are its adherents. the reason why we have been so successful in the west is precisely because we're not muslim. meanwhile, in the middle east and north africa for the last 1400 years, muslims have been rolling around in the dirt like the savages you are, thanks to your retarded religion. the only reason why life is in any way bearable on a subsistence basis in any of these shithole muslim countries is thanks to the technology, innovation and medicine of the west (and i include israel in that) and asia. your religion has turned 1400 years of human capital and potential into pure excrement. it would be laughable were it not so desperately sad.
oh, i'm perfectly happy for you, in the middle east, to cut each other's heads off, or stone women to death for adultery, or execute gays- please, carry on to your heart's content. doesn't bother me.
but here in europe, we kind of like our civilisation. so stay out of it.
a great picture of cameron there in front of the mighty star of david. superb.
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ReplyDeleteYes Islamophobia IS racist, as defined by the United Nations, of which the UK is a signatory.
So as can be seen this term is not all redundant as the dishonest poster writes; in fact it is increasing in evidence, just as "anti-semitism" appearing from ubiquity into modern condemnation. This process of outlawing Islamophobia is just beginning at the official level.
As for the succesful West, I will let one of the most influential right-wing theorists say it candidly.
"The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do."
- Professor Samuel P. Huntington ("Clash of civilizations" theorist)
1400 years - No not factually accurate at all. Islam pushed a massive surge in those socities that became Muslim until a few centuries ago (c.1500 CE). The Muslim world far outshone the West & was poised to win outright dominance.
The following site is a good beginning http://www.muslimheritage.com/ , as is the copiously referenced http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hidden-Debt-Islamic-Civilisation/dp/0955115612 .
The modern university R&D is built upon EMPIRICISM, something which was a gift of Muslim Spain & Sicily. Greek theory was biased towards conjecture & practical testing was not integral to the methodology. Freedom of Speech is vital to academic theory & we see that foundedpractically in those universities. Ever heard of Adelard of Bath, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelard_of_Bathhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Sylvester_II, Fibonacci studying in North African universities?
Thomas Aquinas?
In fact the spur to the (western) Enlightenment owes much of its initial impetus to those early Muslim universities of Spain & Sicily, on which such institutions as Oxford, Sorbonne etc were children. The libraries of Spain in just one quarter of one city greatly outnumbered that of whole nations e.g. France & modern Britain. Islam was so highly respected that some European universities degree had the Islamic invocation to Allah known as the Basmala prefixing the Degree certificate. I recall reading about Goethe's degree, but that was a while ago now.
As for the future & Muslim nations >
"In a sweeping report entitled "The World in 2050", the bank said China would snatch the top slot as expected, but only narrowly. China at $24.6 trillion (constant 2000 dollars) and the US at $22.3 trillion will together tower over the global economy in bipolar condominium - or simply the G2 - with India at $8.2 trillion far behind in third slot, and parts of Europe slithering into oblivion.
Turkey will vault past Russia, settling an Ottoman score. Egypt, Malaysia and Indonesia will all move into the top 20. Muslim societies may start to reassert an economic clout unseen since the late Caliphate. "
you don't need to lecture me on the scientific achievements of islam - i'm well aware of them. I've studied islamic culture in great depth and with great interest; i've studied the koran and the sunnah for months with an immam at my local islamic cultural centre. i've travelled to and through 17 muslim countries in the last 22 years. last september i was in turkey, and attended in constantinople (let's give it its real name, eh?) a superb exhibition of the scientifc and mathematical discoveries under islam. Amazing.
ReplyDeleteBut what did you do with it all? Nothing - absolutely nothing.
if someone invents the wheel, and then i come along and exploit it, that makes ME the clever one, not the person who invented it.
and staying with turkey, not one turk could explain to me the point of the referendum that was held while i was there. as the turks are once again having their brains replaced with the steaming hot dog-turd that is islam, the idiots voted to make their country less democratic, less free. the only reason the kemalists were able to drag turkey out of the cesspit was precisely because they completely restricted islam and its influence. attaturk knew it is backward, de-humanising and de-civilising. indeed, he wanted to eradicate it altogether from turkey. unfortunately for the turkish people - and the rest of us - he never achieved this.
muslims willfully render themselves mentally handicapped for the world today - you're zombies living in the dark ages - you're throwing the contents of your shit-pot out of the window, and it's landing on us. And i write as a westerner who has forgotten more about islam than 99.9% recurring of westerners will ever know.
@7 March 2011 14:48
ReplyDeleteStudied Islam have you? Your lack of ability is exemplified by your numerous errors in even basic English.
Studied with an "immam" (sic) - speaks volumes, that you cannot even get that right!
"Constantinople" - "real" name? Your ignorance of history is highlighted even in that statement. If that, why not Byzantium, or does that not fit your Islamophobic agenda?
"But what did you do with it all? Nothing - absolutely nothing."
Amazing, how wilfully ignorant this statement is. The fact that you have just ignored centuries of one of the greatest civilisations on Earth.
"if someone invents the wheel, and then i come along and exploit it, that makes ME the clever one, not the person who invented it."
The history of human development is intertwined & no one civilisation can take all the cumalative credit. I completely disagree with exploitation being the sole criterion, as surely without an inventor, the process does not even begin. Imitation is all that remains if the inventor is not given credit & society will never progress. That is why R&D is such an important part of modern universities, the cutting edge.
"turks are once again having their brains replaced with the steaming hot dog-turd that is islam"
A very insightful comment, highlighting the emotional nature & lack of balanced critical thinking. The fact is Turkey is progressing rapidly, & is predicted to do so even further by the like of the HSBC report well into 2050. The juggernaut-like burden of Ottoman governance has been removed & the Turks have been concentrating on efficient growth. I would be interested to see what exactly in your presumed great study of Islam do you assume is the factor holding Muslims back, or is yours just a visceral hatred borne out of an historical inferiority complex?
"i write as a westerner"
You a "westerner" (sic)- as in Britisher, ahem, & one whose English is rather embarrassing to boot.
I'm sorry to burst your bubble but the greatest threat to the Muslim community does NOT come from Jews, but from extremists who claim to be Muslims.
ReplyDeleteThese extremists are prepared to bomb Mosques, schools, markets, and funerals. They have a thirst for blood and are prepared to murder those who disagree or question their distorted views.
Extremism is where the threat is coming from, and the unwillingness or inability of ordinary Muslims to stand up and fight back.
And this coming from a Muslim by the way.
-rhassan
Everyone who is racist needs to shut-up wot are you going to get out of it. where i come from it is completley mixed and eveyone is looked at like an equal (theres racism ) but you get that everywhere - not much though-and there jus the lowlifes lol. Funni thing is though black or white - Muslim or Christian we are all doing the sme thing eg sat here debating.It's so pathetic.
ReplyDeleteI'm Asian (and proud) and my BEST friend is white (and proud) we look at each as equals and respect each others beleifs , cultures , opinions and religions (we are young ).I also have a very mixed fam whites , black , asians , spanish etc;
And I'd just like to point out that if you look at the generation now whites tan themselves to go brown and dye their hair black and brown skinned dye their hair blonde and try to lighten their skin colour .So to every racist person out there you're SAD. u live in a multi-cultural society and in the same WORLD . so shut it and live your life if you dnt like sum1 coz there lighter/darker or from a different country or different religion (not to mention still human ) thn just avoid them - uneducated lowlifes!
just like to mention both christians and muslims are becoming extreme -they are both in favour of bombing each others holy places , books , worships, FOR WHAT THERE ARE MORE THINGS TO WORRY ABOUT! yes you should fight for your religion but to a certain extent and to do this doesn't mean disrespect other religions.
why argue get on with your OWN lives . evry one is entlitled to opinion but - seriously .its funni thy can bomb a country because of what one man says is racist for e.g so they thn beleive its ok to bomb the whole country - little kids who are innocent and in actual fact aren't probably racist (nor they're family) but after theyre family member has been killed they're siblings for example will envy those who have done it therfore not getting rid of racism. basically to punish 1 kill a thousand. Just because one person is like that doesn'nt mean the rest of their country is . its like sayin tht mans a rapist so is his whole city -NO
before british open their mouth,they need to understand the fact that uk capitalists want to remain as a key player in the world politics.it has been this way last at least 100 years.uk emperialist murdered 1 million irish catholics in ireland.they had supported hitler,they invaded greece.they supported franco,mussolini against socialist goverments.they supported K.ATATURK against ermanians...the list goes on and on.so uk usa does not want any peace in the world at all because they know most of the world could side with russia and china.more blood means more profit for them.
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